[ He takes joy in that, and it turns Rey's stomach. As much as she wants to stop Thrawn, she also takes umbrage with Ben's malice. Better if he were doing it for different reasons than revenge. She's not in a position to lecture him about that right now, however. ]

If we can show they survived the fall of the Empire, we may be able to discourage him from all of this. [ It's a pipe dream and she knows it — his commitment to the cause is too powerful —but she has to at least entertain it. She wants compassion to be the right answer, even when it's not. ] He may have mentioned more to Poe, but ... It's unlikely. He told me that he and Poe hadn't spoken about anything pertaining to politics.