To manipulate the Force to read minds is not always painful. If he hurt Poe, he did it on purpose. But I was there that night, when Kylo read the minds of those women. He didn't hurt them.

[ it hurts to deliberately obfuscate her role in it. but she does not feel that she can tell finn or poe that she had a role in it. now, more than ever, she is sure they would not understand how she could.

but she needs them to understand at least that she would never let something like that to transpire, never endorse it; and for that, she needs certainty. ]

I was there. When we got split up, I found him in the crowd. I saw it. If she were in any pain, I would have felt it. [ she sighs. ] The information that he got, he didn't get through torture.